In this episode of What CEOs Talk About, host Martin Hunter and guest Andrea Spiegel discuss leadership and managing people, the value of redirection over criticism, and how the best process is developed with the people using it in mind. Andrea is clear that the value of elegant systems is not simply efficiency and revenue, but that people can work in them. She wants CEOs and entrepreneurs to be able to get back to doing the thing they started the business to do, instead of spending all their time doing the business.

In this episode of What CEOs Talk About, host Martin Hunter and guest Kevin Lang discuss the nuances of leadership. Kevin maintains that there is no failure if you lead people correctly: if you manage risk and allow people to grow on their own - and to have room to fail - then failure becomes fundamental to success. They talk about Martin’s four cardinal rules of leadership, Kevin’s identification of the value of emotional intelligence, how to work in ways that serve you, and Kevin’s passions in life which, besides leadership, include parenting. The insights found in this episode are not to be missed.